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of marriage act and california's proposition 8. nbc's pete williams joins us now from washington with all the latest details. good evening, pete. >> reporter: good evening, larry. the vilma case is the easier one. federal law signed into law by president clinton in 1996. it says if a person is legally married in a state, the federal government can't recognize those marriages. that's where you talked about federal benefits heterosexual couples get and same sex couples do not. the prop 8 thing is bigger. while potentially it's confined to the state of california only, the question it out there having given the right to gay marriage could the state then take it away through proposition 8 passed by a majority of the vote nurse 2008. having taken that case, the court could get to the bedrock issue. can any state refuse to let same sex couples get married under the federal constitution. it could potentially be narrow or very far. >> pete, as i understand it, let me ask you. this one of these things, maybe the driving one, is defense of marriage act was about paying the estate act. where one of
kudlow report" starts right now. >>> first up, we begin with breaking news out of washington tonight with just 18 days until the country's economy falls off the tax and fiscal cliff, turns out president obama and house speaker john boehner have just wrapped up a surprise meeting at the white house. cnbc's own eamon javers joins us now with the details. again, good evening, eamon. >> good evening, larry. we're told the meeting at the white house was in the oval office. it was about 50 minutes long. boehner and obama were joined by a couple key players, including tim geithner and rob neighbors, the white house's liaison to capitol hill. he's the go-to guy who's been shuttling the paper back and forth throughout this. boehner was also joined by an aide that boehner sources have not named. i don't want to read too much into this larry. but you can get a sense from the amount of people in the room that they're getting into at least some level of detail here. if it was just the two principals, you'd expect a more general conversation. with that number of people in the room, maybe some more
back to us. >> yeah. thank you. >>> there is some action in washington tonight. at this hour the senate has just passed a $60 billion aid bill for communities slammed by super storm sandy. that vote was 61 for, 33 against. sandy road ashore devastating several areas and the senate rejected a republican amendment to cut the immediate cost to just 23 million clearing the way for final action on the $60 billion bill. the bill now goes to the house where its passage is uncertain because of the non-sandy-related spending items that are in the bill. typical sausage making for washington. >>> let's get to our panel. here now is blake zeff, former obama campaign aide and washington editor. robert, have you heard anything in the last couple of hours that suggests to you that somehow by monday mitch mcconnell and harry reid will sing kumbaya, pass something in the senate that also passes the house? >> i'm not so sure they'll be sing kumbaya, but the real story today is that there's movement on capitol hill. reid and mcconnell come out of that white house meeting and they're ready to haggle over s
. >> and in washington, the nra breaks it's silence. the kudlow report starts now. >> all right let's go to john harwitt first in dc. i think i agree with what you were saying first. >>> he moved to plan b and the hope that further negotiations could produce progress. >> our plan b would protect american taxpayers who make $1 million or less and have their current rates extended. i continue to have hope. that would reduce spending as well as revenues on the table. >> but of course the democrats in the senate. didn't see plan b as a step forward. harry reid came out and said, john boehner is walking away from the nenegotiations. >> every time we get down to something from the long-term financial think for this country. they do the charlie brown thing, they jerk the ball away. and this is what is going on. >> the posturing conceals the process that we are not aware of. but i talked to a budget aid that said, he thinks things are getting worse in terms for prospects of a deal. >> by the way, my contacts have said the same thing. you thank you very, very much. all of this may be defying predictions. it is a
report" start ises right now. >>> the big news tonight, still the developments in washington on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of rhetorical jabs from one side to the other and it's not clear as a result of all that whether a deal can, in fact, get hammered out in the remaining time before new year's eve and take a listen to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell earlier today explaining the problems he's facing in washington. take a listen. >> the truth is we're coming up against a hard deadline here and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we do know t
signs the fiscal cliff talks are on the brink of collapse. chief washington correspondent john harwood joins us from washington with the details. i look away for two seconds, john, and everything's falling astart. >> it looked a couple of days ago as if the two sides were getting closer. when president obama had a news conference at the white house today, he came out to talk about gun control measures in the wake of the connecticut tragedy, but the questions were mostly focused on the fiscal cliff. the president said he couldn't understand why john boehner was detouring to plan b because the differences are narrow enough that they can still work it out. >> i've said i'm willing to make some cuts. what separates suss probably a few hundred billion dollars. the idea that we would put our economy at risk because you can't bridge that gap doesn't make a lot of sense. >> the smackdown from john boehner came shortly afterwards. it was short and sweet. he spoke for less than a minute and he said the onus is going to be on president obama if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> tomorrow the house w
in washington, d.c. that's the effect of this unlimited print mag sheen that the federal reserve has. >> let's put some gold into the equation. gold as legal tender. thanks very much to shawn fowler. now speaking of gold, thieves impersonating policemen boarded a boat in curacao and stole 70 gold bars worth an estimated $75 million. sounds like a thriller. authorities say there were six thieves wearing jackets with patches saying police who assaulted the captain and took off the gold in three cars. authorities say the shipment was legal but won't say who owned the gold or where it was headed. now, let's turn and do some stock market work. consumer spending fell in a new report out today. so did real disposable income. could have something to do with superstorm sandy. weak in yesterday's third quarter gdp report. profits, and these are the broadest gdp profits, covering about 5 million large and small companies really came in pretty good in the third quarter. up 9% from a year ago. so even though business looks weak, good profits could be the backbone of the stock market despite the hysteria
to a compromise? we go back to cnbc's eamon javers who joins us from washington with all the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, larry. you're right, they did meet today. it was a surprise meeting not announced as the previous meetings between the two men have been in past weeks. so we know that the meeting lasted about 45 minutes and that treasury secretary tim geithner also attended. what we don't know is whether the two men came to any deal or not or advanced the discussions in any way today. what we do know is that up here on capitol hill, senator harry reid, the democratic leader, suggested to his fellow senators that they might consider coming back on december 26th, the day after christmas, to finish up the fiscal cliff which suggests to you that they might be heading down the path toward a deal, although that is not set in stone. meanwhile, over at the white house, the press secretary, jay carney, was asked about where the president stands on the fiscal cliff. and he did his best to give as invasive an answer as possible and keep the negotiating wiggle room open. take a listen
cliff counter offer to president obama. eamon javers joins us now from washington with all the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. leapt me walk you through the specifics or at least what specifics we have so far from this boehner counter offer and you can see where it falls short from the white house's perspective right in the top line take a look at the details here. boehner and the other house republicans are asking for $800 billion in new tax reform revenue. that's short of the $1.6 trillion that the president would like to see there. also health savings of $600 billion. mandatory savings of $300 billion. revisions of cpa of 200 billion. other discretionary saving 300 billion. they say net savings is $2.2 trillion all told. the white house says this plan is not balanced, and interestingly there's a little side skirmish here between the speaker of the house john boehner and erskine bowls. boehner said this was based on a report that bowles laid out. bawls said no. he said the approach laid out does not represent the simpson-bowles plan or the bowles plan. in fact what
day. that time has passed in washington. that has got us into this problem. we want to stop that and really return that we have real growth going forward. >> thank you very much, mr. kevin mccarthy. thank you very much. >> thanks very having me. >>> so bailout detroit? no way. one motown councilwoman says yes. she says president obama owes it to them. don't forget, folks. free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity, not bailouts, thank you very much, but free markets. let detroit take care of detroit. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back after this. [ male announcer ] when this hotel added aflac to provide a better benefits package... oahhh! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. ♪ ha ha! bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also comm
again today after a controversial nra news conference in washington. the "kudlow report" begins right now. >>> all right. let's first look at the market reaction to this fiscal cliff stuff. jackie joins us with the details. good evening, jackie. >> good evening to you, larry. while markets finished lower on the day, they were higher on the week. the dow up about .5%, the nasdaq higher by 1.7%, and the s&p 500 up by roughly 1.2% over the last five days. meantime in terms of sector performance, the financials, they had a rough day. the plan "b" proposal for the fiscal cliff. up more than 3% for the week. also technology and materials they finished lower on the day, as well, but higher for the week. the worst-performing sectors this week, consumer staples, telco, and health care, and in terms of the individual stocks that we were watching on the s&p 500 nyse was bigger with a 30% upside after news of that $8.2 billion deal to be acquired by the intercontinental exchange. to the downside, it was electronic arts logging a loss on concerns there will be more scrutiny on violent video games
of the market is much better than the tone out of washington. like i said, there's always ait. right here on "mad money." i'm jim cramer and i'll see you tomorrow. >>> good evening, everyone. i'm larry kudlow. so a crucial moment for our economy and for our right to bear arms. high drama on capitol hill right now as house republican speaker john boehner looks to pass his plan b fiscal cliff bill in a million dollar tax threshold. votes aren't there yet. that's why we are following this live through the whole thing this evening. >>> and as the president's new anti-gun violence task force starts work, we learn that now outside experts have yet joined that panel. meanwhile, the debate on gun control rages across the country. tonight we will hear from outspoken tv host piers morgan and former new york mayor rudolph giuliani. "the kudlow report" begins right now. >>> first up, the latest on the vote of plan b. the plan b bill sponsored by john boehner that may decide how deep into january they have to go for a solution. may decide the fate of the economy and the stock market and decide the fat
of the democratic authorities in washington, they will take advantage p take over the states' jurisdiction by setting standards that are beyond what we know today that are not necessary because we know what we know today. and let's be clear. the industry is doing everything it knows how to do to continually make fracking and continually make the whole process, including capturing methane, better for everybody. >> it's an economic miracle if they would just let it happen. it's an economic miracle. many thanks to john. we appreciate it. >>> now, have you all noticed the u.s. and global stock markets are actually rising, in many cases to multi-year highs? we have some key numbers and some forecasts coming up next. the stocks are more optimistic than the experts. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by
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